[L]iberalism tells man that he creates himself out of his own free choices, without reference to any forces outside or above himself. But a culture that simultaneously deifies the self and denies the transcendent makes the self meaningless, because all the things that would give actual content to the self have been taken away. Since the available ways of “creating oneself,” of expressing one’s uniqueness, are now so terribly limited, people soon turn to anti-natural and horrifying methods of self-expression.
Thus in a culture that systematically denies nature, tradition, and God, the most efficaceous way of expressing your individuality is to mutilate your body.Personally, I find tattoos in general to be ugly and offensive. On men, they suggest an affinity for thuggery. On women, well I don't think they're called "tramp stamps" for no good reason. For both sexes, there's the whole "prole drift" thing, in which the upper classes adopt the habits of the underclasses in an effort to be cool or edgy or rebellious or hip. Or something, anything, to be "tolerant" (that mischievous virtue of modernity) and--for the upper and middle classes--avoid appearing unbearably bourgeois. Ultimately, tattoos represent a backslide toward our pagan, savage past that is should be unbecoming of civilized persons, let alone Christians.
Speaking of Christianity, here's what Leviticus 19:28 has to say on the subject:
"'Do not cut your bodies for the dead or put tattoo marks on yourselves. I am the LORD.Moreover, there's 2 Corinthians 6:17, which exhorts Christians to reject worldly practices and draw a clear line between themselves and the pagans in their midst.
And yes, I am aware that Christians are released from the law as a matter of salvation. Yet there are plenty of other laws which, while not required for salvation, are clearly meant to prosper us, and I count the prohibition on tattooing among these sorts of laws. For instance, tattooing places the recipient at risk for infection, it correlates with suicidal, aggressive, hostile, and/or delinquent behavior, can be psychologically addictive, and is associated with peer substance abuse, sexual activity, and school problems and disordered eating behavior and gateway drug use in adolescents.
This isn't me judging, as in passing judgement on the salvation of others, this is me pointing out that one's non-compliance with God's laws may bring harm to themselves or to their acquaintances. I judge it better for Christians to reflect His light into the world, rather than get caught up in stylish worldly fetishes like defacing the Temple, all to fit in.
Unfortunately for those like me who find tattoos unsightly and (the following link to a poor misguided anus-tattooing woman probably NSFW) a harbinger of civilizational decline, more than one-third of the under-40 set has a tattoo, with more women having ink than men. Thus while tattooing is quite popular at present, and a great many Believers have themselves been inked, I think it portends badly for our culture as a whole.
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Agreed. There's also the secular perspective, appealing to vanity - take a look at grandpa's small tattoo he got during WWII or Korea. As the skin sags, the tattoo becomes an ugly blotch. Don't want to imagine what these guys with sleeve tats will look like in their 70's.
I've wanted a tattoo and a belly button piercing since high school. I suppose its something to be said that I still have neither.
At one point I'd have agreed with everything you said 100%. Now, its more 98%. Such a hypocrite, but its because of my brother and his friends that the 2% is holding out.
However, coming from a family with addiction problems (those with no substance abuse are over-eaters), I can see the addiction quality to it. My brother can't seem to help himself anymore. The only thing I can be grateful for is he has good taste - and unless he suddenly decides to convert to atheism, they are tattoos he can live with.
I also think the tattooing and peircing are forms of self mutilation and ought to be in the same bad as mental illness. But as the larger society drifts, it becomes more natural for the sane to give it a shot, as if it is a temporary thing.
what about tattoos that profess the person's love of God and Jesus?
@ wonderling.
what about tattoos that profess the person's love of God and Jesus?
That's like fornicating for the faith.
"I did it for Jesus" does not make a wrong right.
What if the person has never read the bible but still professes faith and demonstrates Jesus values? You really think Jesus is going to be as intolerant as you?
@ Carnivore,
"There's also the secular perspective, appealing to vanity - take a look at grandpa's small tattoo he got during WWII or Korea. "
Agreed, vanity is a significant contributor that I did not address in my post.
Another factor I didn't address is why some WWII vets had tats, particularly navy vets, and that is if a fellow falls overboard and dies, it will be difficult to identify the body. Tats aid in post-mortem identification.
Or so I was told.
@ Christina,
"they are tattoos he can live with"
lol I suppose it can be like all those reformed gang-bangers with gang tats on their bodies...after they are "reformed" they serve as reminder of the previous life they've turned away from.
On piercings, I'm not a strict purist. Earrings on women are quite fine. Sometimes navel piercings are okay. And small nose posts through the lobe of the right nostril, like I've seen in Afghan and Paki Pashtun women, look very attractive and complement their look well.
So some of it is a matter of aesthetics, but at a certain point it transitions from aesthetics to a real genuine spiritual problem.
Love the rationalization of "what if I live the life of Jesus values?"
Tattoos are generally disgusting. They are just another way to reduce us to lowest common denominator.
You think tattoos are a conspiracy inflicted upon us? It's just fashion. Personally I think they are gross but that's because they hide the skin and I like looking at people's skin especially if they are attractive. Did you ever consider that people with sleeves or more of tattoos are trying to cover themselves up from pervs? If that's the case then these "sinners" may actually be prudes. All I know is that in a few years any owner of a laser clinic is going to make a killing.
As for piercings, they tend to make me squeamish, depending on where they are on the person and how many they have but that's only because I'm highly empathic and imaginative and am not into physical pain myself. You won't get any argument from me that what is of more serious concern are those who try to change their physical appearance into that of a lizard or snake or some kind of animal eg. split tongues.
And God made our hair and nails grow so we shouldn't get haircuts or trim our nails because we are defacing the body that God gave us?
Sorry Wap, you're way off on the wrong tangent here,
"You really think Jesus is going to be as intolerant as you?"
Meh. Tolerance may be the virtue of virtues in the Church of Sec Humanism, but Jesus comes to divide, not unite. Or tolerate what should not be.
In our case, a refusal to tolerate tattooing and/or mutilation of those around us can run the gamut of "I wouldn't do that if I were you" to "dude, you are under attack spiritually" to "dude, you are going the wrong way spiritually" to keeping away from that person because of what tats are associated with (crime, drug use, aggressive behavior, etc).
"Did you ever consider that people with sleeves or more of tattoos are trying to cover themselves up from pervs?"
I suppose that is possible, that they could be Halloweening themselves up to ward off the ghouls. But my sense is that mentally affected ppl like this are far out numbered by those who are using their sleeves to cover up IV drug use, or as a badge of honor from having done hard time.
But in none of these three cases (mental illness, drug addiction, criminal behavior) are tats a positive.
@ Heresolong,
With respect, I disagree. IMHO God made/makes it clear, by Word and example, that we are to be set apart from the heathen and not adopt their ways.
Added to this are the myriad ways that tattooing harms a person, both directly and indirectly.
"Meh. Tolerance may be the virtue of virtues in the Church of Sec Humanism, but Jesus comes to divide, not unite. Or tolerate what should not be."
Well that may be what you've learned in church by associating with people fixated on judging everything and everyone. Fortunately the bible actually tells us that the most important thing is love, which is most definitely predicated on tolerance. As for tolerating 'what should not be' pretty sure Jesus mainly associated himself with sinners. My guess is that they were a lot more of accepting of him than the "righteous" folks were.
How do you define love, Wanderling?
Fortunately the bible actually tells us that the most important thing is love, which is most definitely predicated on tolerance.
I don't know, Wanderling - I suppose I could see how tolerating my toddler's self-destructive behavior like running out in the middle of the street is surely love.
I suppose it is incredibly hateful and intolerant of me to try to teach my child that his actions have consequences.
I know it's trite. But I live with a world-view that humans are not cognizant of EVERYTHING and that the general populace lacks a certain amount of Wisdom. Tolerance != blind acceptance. Where it really isn't my job to be teaching you like I teach my children, neither is it my job to roll over and play dead when someone chooses to do something dangerous and wrong.
@EW:
Meh. Tolerance may be the virtue of virtues in the Church of Sec Humanism, but Jesus comes to divide, not unite. Or tolerate what should not be.
This I completely disagree with. Where I do believe choosing to follow Christ leads to a certain amount of division, I do not think he came to divide. I believe there is a spiritual warfare at play here where the "enemy" is the one who comes to divide and prevent unity.
Interesting thought on this: Catholic means unity while Devil means divided. Division leads to chaos... which I'd think anyone against God would want.
Now that I've completely destroyed my credibility with Wanderling (not that she found me credible to begin with), I'll sign off ;)
-Christina
Isn't his Christian name "Lawrence"?
heresolong: "And God made our hair and nails grow so we shouldn't get haircuts or trim our nails because we are defacing the body that God gave us?"
Sophistry. Comments like this explain why many sites like this one don't allow comments.
wanderling: "what about tattoos that profess the person's love of God and Jesus?"
Okay, THIS comment deserves respect...
The Torah bans the alteration of skin (with one VERY obvious exception in males): Leviticus 19:28. So a Jew with a tattoo is a contradiction in terms.
But your comment assumes Christianity and this goes into the whole relationship between the Christian and his Old Testament.
Christianity retains the Law where it deals with what CS Lewis called the Tao, which is moral Natural Law - so the ban on homosexuality stays in place. Tattooing, though, is - like circumcision - someone one does entirely to oneself. So it is not covered under the Tao.
I would rule that tattooing (and scarification) are allowable amongst Gentile communities where they are community markers. I understand that even Auster accepts Ethiopian cross-tattooes, and I would expand this to Nubian Christians.
But the tattooing we see on the street - the tramp-stamps and the neck-tattooes and the teardrops on the face and the "Motorhead" skulls with flames - these are not markers of a civilisation. These tattooes are simply marks of egotism upon their bearers.
And if the bearer of such a tattoo claims to be Christian, he is doing much worse. The point of Jesus's "lifting of the curse of the Law" is not that everything banned in the Torah is now permitted. It is nothing more or less than to open up salvation to the Gentiles - to allow for a Greek not to circumcise, and for a Nubian to continue marking his skin. Flaunting individuality was not the point. So, a Christian with a personal, non-cultural tattoo is a walking insult to the Bible.
Thanks Zimri.
@ Christina,
In my comment about dividing, not uniting, I had Matt 10:35 in mind.
As such, I am neither surprised nor offended that the world would dislike anything that tells them "no" or fails to "tolerate" their preferences. Not much room for all this lowest-common-denominator Universalist stuff.
It is, after all, foretold.
Specific to my comment, I was using 'divide' in the sense that one sorts right from wrong, or good from bad, or healthy from unhealthy.
I wholly concur with you on the spiritual warfare bit. I can just imagine Screwtape's minions clapping their hands in glee when another tat shop opens.
@EW
In my comment about dividing, not uniting, I had Matt 10:35 in mind.
I know. I don't know if its that big a deal to draw a distinction, seeing as the end result is still the same, but I guess its the nature of the thing.
Murphy's Iron Laws of Tatoos:
1 The more tatoos you have, the trashier you are. 2 The closer to your sex organs the tats are, the sluttier you are.
There are no exceptions.
Love in the deepest sense is an act of giving of the self regardless of what you may receive in turn. It is inseparable from faith and hope. For instance you have no faith that those with tattoos might actually be decent people and therefore you write a blog post giving them grief rather than benefit of the doubt (hope).
It is usually preferable if the qualities of what you give are kindness, charity etc etc rather than intolerance etc etc.
Wanderling,
Your definition of "tolerance" is seriously lacking.
And as for the "Faith, Hope, and Love" - it is Faith in God, Hope in his promise, and Love for HIM and our neighbors.
God is intensely INTOLERANT of sin...which is why he gave us Jesus. So that we (who are incapable of being anything BUT sinful) would have a way to spend eternity with HIM. Consider God the ultimate perfectionist. He's pretty intolerant of anything less, but he loves us just the same. Interesting how that intolerance and love thing works.
You are intolerant of my tolerance. And you're sure it's my view of tolerance that's lacking. Mm'kay.
" I don't know if its that big a deal to draw a distinction, seeing as the end result is still the same"
Yep, it is.
"Love in the deepest sense is an act of giving of the self regardless of what you may receive in turn. "
This may be where we're having difficulties.
Agape love includes what you describe, but directs it/focuses it with a concern for the well-being of another.
Applied in this situation, I would be not be loving someone if I aided and abetted his self-harm...or him harming others. By tattooing himself, a man exposes himself to disease, violence, unhealthy social circles, and in general drags society in an uncivilized direction (ref prole drift, discussed above).
Thus does "tolerance" become apathy, the opposite of love.
"You are intolerant of my tolerance. And you're sure it's my view of tolerance that's lacking. Mm'kay."
Back atcha. You're intolerant of what you see as insufficient tolerance in others.
It's a trap, really. Taken literally, to be tolerant, one is not permitted to pass judgement on others. At all.
But then again, we know what "tolerance" means IRL. It's a code word meaning that Christians and the religious must "tolerate"...as in do nothing, or even condone...the depraved and noxious behavior of others, while non-Christians are not required to reciprocate.
I think chicks get tattoos (yuck) because bad boys have tattoos. It is a way of communicating "look at me, I'm one of you!"
Women do this constantly, and project the behaviours of the men they are attracted to into their own character.
Getting a tattoo always gets (or used to) a guy sex, because he was portrayed as a "bad boy."
Girls are merely projecting "bad boy" as sexy, and think that projecting "bad girl" to men also makes them sexy.
Here's a clue: NO IT DOESN'T!
Men are attracted to purity and innocence. Your tattoo make you look like a tramp, and indicates your liking for bad boys - meaning quality men will righteously reject you.
As for piercings, I have no desire to make out with a tackle box. If you want to make yourself into a freak we used to pay to see at the circus, don't expect men to still be attracted to you because of your golden uterus, ladies.
Quite frankly, any woman with a tattoo or piercings beyond her ears is out of the market for me. There's not enough viagra in the world.
No woman ever turned a man off because she didn't have a tattoo!
"Girls are merely projecting "bad boy" as sexy, and think that projecting "bad girl" to men also makes them sexy."
I had never thought of it that way...I had thought that women found it edgy and exciting, and that was the end of it.
Perhaps there is a purpose after all, to identify themselves as part of the "bad" herd.
Perhaps this also helps explain the popularity of "bitch". It's not in any way attractive, but somehow the notion of being bad, difficult, and disagreeable makes some women think they are more attractive.
Leveraging what you wrote above, 'no woman ever lost a date by being pleasant to be around.'
Interesting how this post becomes about females with tattoos rather than gender neutrsl, tattoo ubiquity. But i guess this site isnt classified as mysogynist for nothing. Tattoos on men look just as ugly so fortunately there is at least aesthetic equality there.
"But i guess this site isnt classified as mysogynist for nothing."
By who? David Futurelle &co? Don't make me laugh.
Besides, "misogynist" these days ranks right up there with "racist" and "anti-Semite". To qualify as misogynist, one need merely be critical of feminists, who arrogate to themselves the right to speak for all women.
Closing this thread, discussion has devolved once again into pointless name calling.
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