Tuesday, December 18, 2012

An Email From Dittohead Listener

Interesting perspective about the demographics of RMM offenders (HT: Christina):
The problem in America today is how we have treated white boys for the last decades, and it all has at its root the unrelenting liberal political agenda. Boys have been pushed out of two of the most important activities: school and sports. In an all-out effort to convince girls they can do anything a boy can, schools have ignored the natural needs and learning traits of boys and forced them to learn like girls. Fewer boys are going to college, in part because they're being pushed out by a feminist agenda in education. We have rushed to dilute the energetic aggressive aspects of the male species by drugging them as children and chickifying them at every turn.
We allowed our young boys to play violent murdering video games. These types of games are the same ones the military uses to train soldiers. But they are being played by very, very young kids in dark rooms all over the country. You want to ban something, ban those. We have overlooked the devastating effects on all children of not having a father in the house. And we have ignored and not helped boys with their mental illness. We've hyperventilated endlessly over girls and their eating disorders, image issues, self-esteem, sex, blah, blah, blah, but we have most totally ignored the mental challenges that boys face. 
While the comment is specific to white males--black and Hispanic males evidently direct their unhappy energies at each other, apparently, and not at random innocents--I think it applies to all males, regardless of skin color or ethnic background. Couple rampant fatherlessness with a usually neglectful and sometimes flagrantly anti-male popular culture (preferring instead to focus on/invest in women rather than men), and a school system hostile to masculinity, and I am scarcely surprised that such events happen...and happen repeatedly.

The liberalist response is to go after the instruments of violence--as if disarming evil makes evil less able to do evil--rather than evil itself .  This is convenient, for it relieves the liberalist of having to address the consequences of their policies over the last few generations.

12 comments:

ScareCrow said...

Her comment about fewer young men attending college is erroneous.

throughout history, roughly 33% of men aged 18-24 have attended college.

Young women aged 18-24 has risen from 25% to 60% (roughly).

Yes, this makes it "look" like fewer men are attending college, but the fact is, 1/3 of young men aged 18-24 attend college.

Do not let this go from fact to factoid.

Christina said...

Your statistics would still suggest they are being marginalized by a fem-centric curriculum.

As to the erroneous side of it, this is the first I've heard that its simply a shift in balance and not a decrease in quantity. Its being portrayed by the sources that care about men/boys that their numbers are dwindling - not simply making up a smaller percentage because girls are going in such large numbers.

ray said...

The liberalist response is to go after the instruments of violence--as if disarming evil makes evil less able to do evil--rather than evil itself . This is convenient, for it relieves the liberalist of having to address the consequences of their policies over the last few generations.


dont address (or even acknowledge) that the US is a totalitarian gynarchy that H-A-T-E-S maleness and fatherhood, and makes a profitable and public spectacle of that hatred, each and every day . . . no, instead, bleat endlessly about "gun control"

as you note, it's just another method of denial, so blame can be shifted to inanimate things, rather than placed on the psychotic and predatory gynogulag, and the tens-of-millions who have done right well the last forty years feeding off the suffering of men and boys

you will eat the fullness of your iniquity o columbia, and the grief you gleefully poured out on others will now be poured out on you, and all the LE hires in creation will not stop these judgments, but only guarantee they worsen

sow, reap

Elusive Wapiti said...

@ Scarecrow.

Yes, with one modification to what you wrote: Seems that the proportion of men attending college has held steady for upper class males; those from the bottom economic strata are the ones falling away. This is made worse by admissions policies that disproportionately discriminate against poor whites and, given how "diversity" is code for not a white guy, males get it in the shorts (again).

This, coupled with much higher attendance rates for women across all income spectrums, makes for the lopsided sex ratios at college.

But then again, those guys may be the smart ones after all...avoiding tens of thousands in debt for that degree in Renaissance Lit or Womyn's Studies.

Elusive Wapiti said...

" the US is a totalitarian gynarchy that H-A-T-E-S maleness and fatherhood, and makes a profitable and public spectacle of that hatred, each and every day"

As evinced by the total lack of commentary about frivorce and how it makes for unattached, unenfranchised, and under-fathered males.

The left likes to posture about how theoretically safe everyone would be by taking away everyone's God-given natural-law right to defend themselves and somehow taking all the firearms out of circulation...but not about how frivorce and "independent" (the new term for unwed) mother-headed homes are sociopath- and thug-factories. The former seeks to disarm everyone, thinking it will stop evil. The latter stops evil before it even has a chance to take root.

The popular but incorrect conventional wisdom is that women civilize men. This could not be further from the truth...it is men who civilize women, and it is men who transmit the civilizing force from father to son.

There is nothing any amount of government programs, father facsimiles, or police-state force could hope to compare to the socialization a resident, bio father can impart on his sons and daughters as part of his paternal duty.

Yet thus far the national conversation seems to be focused on how high-capacity magazine a hunter "needs" to harvest game...complete red herring...and not on fixing the broken homes and fem-schools and man-hostile culture that makes crazy school/theater/shopping mall shooters in the first place.

wanderling said...

omg even if the divorce was frivolous and affected the killer, it occurred when he was 17! For how long do u think parenting has an influence on basic moral development?? I can tell you that it doesn.t take until the late teens to learn right from wrong and development of empathy. You are not the only person in the world who had undergone a divorce but u do seem to b the only person in the world who blames every single problem on it. that must make for some awkward family dinners. Solution, expand yr net of blame.

Unknown said...

For how long do u think parenting has an influence on basic moral development??

My mother was the baby in her family... a good bit younger than even the next youngest. She was treated as inconsequential by her mother and siblings.

She grew up and gave preferential treatment to the youngest, trying to be more "fair", but ended up giving that child a false sense of "maturity" and a disrespect for authority. As the oldest, I am still trying to work out my complicated feelings for a sister who thought she was more superior than me.

That is MY history with parenting.

Scripture has another instance of mistakes between parents affecting their parenting ability:

King David had an affair with a woman named Bathsheba. She got pregnant. He sent her husband to the front of a war so he could be killed off, making it possible to marry Bathsheba.

His oldest son was probably about 17 years old at the time.

When Solomon was young, it became apparent that he would be chosen as his father's successor. Out of jealousy and anger and betrayal, he left with a cohort of his father's most trusted men and plotted an assassination attempt on his father.

Meanwhile, in another part of the palace, another of the King's sons had learned from his father that royalty can take whatever they may like. He was in love with his half sister and raped her. When her full brother found out, he killed the half brother in vengeance. That son was then punished for murder.

Because of his folly that ONE TIME out of many years of greatness (considered the greatest king Israel ever had), he lost 4 sons (the baby Bathsheba was pregnant with died) and a daughter was raped.

Parenting has a profound impact on generations. The decisions you make today can impact the generations that follow. Scripture says even unto the 7th generation.

Elusive Wapiti said...

" u do seem to b the only person in the world who blames every single problem on it."

Reading comprehension, pls.

We're talking mass shootings in general, not just this one.

Also discussing more than just divorce here, although that is a big part of it.

ray said...

The popular but incorrect conventional wisdom is that women civilize men. This could not be further from the truth...it is men who civilize women, and it is men who transmit the civilizing force from father to son


woman is Chaos, telling herself (and anyone else who'll listen) that she is Order

all virtues come from Father (see Genesis) and are modeled as you say, by transmission from father to son

using collective power, women twist the original civilizing and spiritualizing virtues into the horrors of empires/civilizations

this is why the bible tells us that a "woman" sits over the great empires of this world

the kingdom will display, celebrate and conserve those virtues from Father w/o their being forced into the matrix hardware of empiric montrosities and resultant anti-male, iniquitous institutions

the world that is coming, the restored masculine world, will for the first time be in harmony with created nature (God's desired order), and will be so alien to what we now accept as normal, as to be almost unrecognizable

NO MA'AM said...

You can't seriously be asking for reading comprehension from someone who types "u" and "ur", or are you?

Excuse me,

"or r u?"

God help us all! Each and every one of us! We can't even spell!

wanderling said...

Have you never heard of a smartphone? You clearly understand what u and r mean so why should I bother tapping the miniscule keypad more than I have too? We're almost a third of the way through the second decade of the 21st Century. Try and keep up gramps.

Elusive Wapiti said...

"We can't even spell"

Engrish is hard. Even I sometimes misspell or make make homophone errors once in a while too.

The trouble with young whipper-snappers is that they haven't yet fully grasped that while truncated txt is useful for IMing thr BFFNs, there r times/plcs fr it. & times where nt appropriate. It's just good manners...or in this case, not. Alternatively, it could be laziness.

On the bright side, at least the image of a web-warrior loser pounding away at a keyboard doesn't apply to some here. Er, wait...