While former Nebraska Senator and likely Secretary of Defense nominee, Chuck Hagel, has drawn criticism in recent days over his foreign policy positions, and specifically his hostility to Israel, members of Nebraska's Jewish community spoke to The Algemeiner about their experiences with him during his time in office.Left unsaid is the rationale for why a candidate for the American Secretary of Defense should have advocated for the security of foreign country as a legislator. Furthermore, the very act of lobbying on behalf of a foreign power is an attempt at corruption; corruption that Mr. Hagel apparently resisted quite well, to the enduring disappointment of American-based supporters of Israel.
Asked about his positions on Israel, Javitch said that Hagel always placed the blame on Israel, demanding "more and more concessions, Israel was at fault when things went wrong, the Palestinians didn't need to adhere to any standard."
Another Jewish community activist, Nate Schwalb, who has been living in Nebraska for 54 years, described Hagel's relationship with the Jewish community as "unfriendly" with views on Israel that were "often contradictory to widely held views by other politicians about Israel. He
didn't seem to show much interest in Israel and in Jewish people. He thinks that there is an Israeli lobby that's too strong," continued Schwalb, "I think it is well established that he is not a friend of Israel."
When ".the late Ally Milder visited the senator in his Washington, D.C. senate office (she) was told by Hagel, 'that she was nothing but a fucking tool for AIPAC,'" [Nebraska political consultant Patrick McPherson] writes. From that point on, Milder never had anything to do with this guy who even then made clear his anti-Jewish sentiments," writes McPherson.
Another politically active Jewish Nebraskan who claims to have known Hagel for "almost 20 years, politically and non-politically," spoke to The Algemeiner on condition of anonymity. I was alarmed with his views about Israel," said the source. As Secretary of Defense, "He would treat Israel just like anyone else, no special treatment [...] of course it would be
damaging to Israel. We were trying to work with him for many years on these issues," the source added, expressing skepticism over the suggestion that as Secretary of Defense his position would be tempered, saying, "There will be no change in his stance, no negotiation, he is unmovable when it comes to Israel."
That a possible Secretary Hagel is feared to treat Israel no differently than any other country with which we have numerous cooperation agreements--but no actual defense treaties and therefore is not an ally, per se*--is, when viewed objectively, a significant reason for patriotic Americans to support him. It's not so much to ask, that American officials should advocate for American interests only, and no other. And no amount of sloppily conflating lack of support for the political state of Israel with actual anti-Semitism** will change this normative claim.
So, why "Nodwigs' Law"? In addition to being a simple anagram of Godwin's Law, this neologism refers to the tendency to apply the perjorative label "anti-Semite" to any person who refers to the state of Israel or Jewry in general that is less than glowingly positive...and the first person to utter this term in any discussion of anything other than bona-fide judenhassen is judged to have automatically lost the debate.
* When was the last time the IDF fought alongside the US military, again?
** A non-sensical word in application, as Semites include Hebrews, Syrians, Arabs, and some peoples on the Horn of Africa. Rhetorically sloppy, just as is lumping a-Zionism together with actual Jew-hate.
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Thanks in advance to all for keeping judenhassen out of this comment thread.
Probably because of my faith or my 3 year employment with a DOD contractor that dealt with the Israelis, it doesn't bother me nearly so much that we'd show "special" interest in Israel as it would if we showed Iran or even Palestine that interest, instead.
My dad claims we should do what we can in Israel's defense because they are the only real democracy in the Middle East.
I have never really given it much thought, so really the only question I genuinely have is why we DON'T have an alliance with Israel.
Because the arab world would hate us? Well...glad we could prevent that from happening...
I should probably add that it doesn't bother me so much, either, that there's actually someone in government with more of a nationalist attitude about our defense!
Is he consistent across the board? Or does he limit his nationalist view of American defense to Israel?
We will find out just how flexible his foreign policy views are when he is SECDEF and charged with executing the policies of the President. Hmmm. Who is that president again? Or even those foreign policies of Hillery "178 country world tour" Clinton.
The DoD has divided up the globe and the oceans of the world and established combatant commands for each, as if we own them. We will continue to do so with a Hagel as SECDEF.
We are in Afghanistan today because it is Obama's policy (some say lack of policy) for us to be there. The same is true for a hundred other countries.
And for the record, the US taxpayers pay quite a bit of money to Palestine, some of it funneled through the UN and some directly. Plus all our aid to places like Egypt and Pakestan that go right into funding terrorist groups.
Modern Jewry is a mix of Ashkenazi, Edomites, Kenites, and other non-israelite tribes: non-of these are of either the House of Israel or the House of Judah.
The Ashkenazi/Khazar are descended from Japheth and Gomer, not Shem: they are not Semites. The Edomites are from Esau whom Yahweh hated. The Kenites are descended from Cain. The remaining tribal components are those tribesd true Israel was supposed to eliminate.
I agree with this post. The job of the Defense Secretary is to defend the United States, not Israel. To represent any other interest but American interests is simply corruption, and this should bother any moral person. And by the way, I'm Jewish.
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The Ashkenazi/Khazar are descended from Japheth and Gomer, not Shem: they are not Semites. The Edomites are from Esau whom Yahweh hated. The Kenites are descended from Cain. The remaining tribal components are those tribesd true Israel was supposed to eliminate.
I would be super interested in your support for this.
I'm serious...not to be argumentative...I'd really truly be interested in reading that information in depth.
@ Christina:
1. The index to Bertrand L. Comparet' essays.
2, Comparet's essay Who are the Jews?
3. The essay THE CAIN/SATANIC SEED LINE
I recommend spending a few days reading Comparet's essays accompanied by an open bible. In fact, I recommend downloading a series of bibles, dictionaries, and commentaries from E-Sword in order to follow more closely.
@ Christina:
And of course, if the "Jews" are not Israel. then who are and where are they?
Then there is also Clifton A. Emahiser's essays. I recommend this essay to company the historical proof one.
Modern Jewry is a mix of Ashkenazi, Edomites, Kenites, and other non-israelite tribes: non-of these are of either the House of Israel or the House of Judah
there are many authientic members of Judah in the state of Israel, and a lesser number of the house of Israel, because their scattering was more extreme, as their offense was more extreme
most of those two houses are still dispersed in n. america and the u.k., and many of their spiritual identities are hidden even from themselves (for now)
@ ray
I've seen figures that put the number of authentic Israelites at two percent.
[I've seen figures that put the number of authentic Israelites] included in the term Jewry [at two percent.]
Archeology and the study of migrations put the tribes in northern Europe, the British Isles and Australia, Scandinavia, South Africa and what was Rhodesia, and the United States. The Goths were the Israelites under a hidden name.
As you look at that list of nations, realize they have been targeted by massive waves of non-white peoples:
Rev 12:14 And two wings of the great eagle were given to the woman, that she might fly into the wilderness, to her place, where she is nourished there a time, and times, and half a time, away from the serpent's face.
Rev 12:15 And the serpent threw water out of his mouth like a river after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried off by the river.
The wilderness was first Europe, then the North American continent, and then southern Africa.
The water from the serpent is the peoples.
Can anyone disprove this equation? I don't think it can be done.
Zionism = Nazism
Modern Israel was founded on genocide, and continues to violate international law by moving settlers into militarily conquered territory. Their propaganda techniques were even pioneered by Nazis.
Jews are great, I have no problem with them. Zionism, however, is the greatest evil being perpetrated in the modern world.
The fact that masses of Jews and Christians are propagandized to support Zionism is nothing short of Satanic, in the extreme.
"@ ray
I've seen figures that put the number of authentic Israelites at two percent."
only the king knows the names and number of non-synagogue-of-satan hebrews on this planet
likewise, the governor of judah knows his own, as does the high priest of israel
it is not discernable via archaeology, nor any other man-made technique, and anyone claiming to know the names and number and specific locales of living hebrews is in error, hopefully by ignorance
Here, ray, just for you from the book The Great Pyramid by JOHN ELLIOT PAGE:
"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all argument, and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance. This principle is contempt prior to examination. DR. PALEY.
A greater than Paley has said,
"He that answereth a matter before he heareth it, it is folly, and a shame unto him" (Proverbs 18:13)"
Enjoy your smug arrogance.
@ Christina,
"Because the arab world would hate us? Well...glad we could prevent that from happening..."
Heh. Too late. But then again I don't much care about what Islamists think. And I think the best thing we could do for Israel is just butt out...and let her take care of her security the way we would if we were surrounded on 3 sides with existential threats.
@ PH
"Plus all our aid to places like Egypt and Pakestan that go right into funding terrorist groups."
Yeah. According to foreignassistance.gov, we give Egypt $1.5B/yr and the Pakis $2.2B/yr. And $3.1B for Israel. I wonder just what metric we use to measure the RoI on those investments.
Plus one could look at oil we buy from the Wahhabist Saudis (who talk a good game but who incubate/export a really nasty religion worldwide) and from all those other petrostates and view that as investment in Islamic terror, too.
@ fschmidt,
"And by the way, I'm Jewish."
I know, and I appreciate your neutrali perspective. And I'm a gentile, one who scratches his head at all this political-state-of-Israel boosterism among Evangelicals.
God doesn't need our help to usher in the Second Coming.
It's as if today's Jewry and Evangelicals both are making the same mistake as did the Herod and the Pharisees and Sadduccees back then...thinking Jesus was going to be a temporal king rather than a spiritual one.
Another thing that makes me go "hmmm": why are establishment American Jews so suspicious of Evangelicals, while Liberalists are so busy stabbing Jews in the back with their knee-jerk support for Islamists?
Wow. You've got the freaks out of the closet with this one. Settling your own land is like genocide, the tribes of Hoodiwa were supposed to eliminate the tribes of Whatsicalled, the number of "authentic" Israelites can only be known by the high poobah of the synagogue of Satan (or something), etc.
How about this argument against Hagel which doesn't rely on any argument about to what extent we should support Israel.
Can we trust the judgement of anyone who thinks that Hamas and the state of Israel are morally equivalent?
"Can we trust the judgement of anyone who thinks that Hamas and the state of Israel are morally equivalent?"
Probably not.
Is there evidence Mr. Hagel thinks they are morally equivalent?
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